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Advice on working safely and avoiding hearing problems?

Hello! I was wondering if there are important things that a beginner MUST know in order to avoid hearing problems. I created this post because I was playing around with Cabbage and what I was supposed to be quiet, was really loud, and working with headphones is not so favorable when that happens.

I understand amplitudes, etc, but how much intensity there will be? Because in Csound default instead of “0dbfs = 1” uses 32768 as a value, and I don’t really know the “how much intense” is a specific value.
Can someone explain to me this?

I tried to find something in Csound Manuals or the internet and nothing intuitive to understand. I’m aware of the intensities levels while working, but I ask here because there may be something else which I don’t know.

So, are there any suggestions to work safely for our ears?
Any way to control amplitudes when they add together?

Thank you!

Yes. Don’t listen to anything that’s too loud!

It’s a tricky issue, and you’re not the first to ask about it. The best advice is to try to have access to your speakers gain controls at all time. I have my main mixer right beside my workstation and I’ve gotten into the habit over the years of always turning things down when I’m about to try something.

The 32768 value refers to the fact that 16bit audio has 65536 different amplitudes regions. If you don’t set 0dbfs to a value, then 32768 is the maximum amplitude you can have without clipping. The intensity of the sound you hear will depend on your speakers.

By default, new Cabbage files always set 0dbfs to 1. This means all signals, summed, must be less than 1 or you will get clipping. Again, this could be as loud or quite as your speakers are set to.[quote=“Slobodanip, post:1, topic:1508”]
So, are there any suggestions to work safely for our ears?
Any way to control amplitudes when they add together?

As I said earlier, the simplest is to just be careful with your speakers. If you can run things through a little mixer then it’s really simple to control this. If you are doing everything through your workstation this is a little trickier as it’s a real pain to keep opening the audio settings.

One thing i also do is add an overall gain slider to each instrument that defaults to 0.1. I then multiply all outputs by this value. It means that each time the instrument loads it reset back to a safe listening level. It can get annoying that you must keep increasing the volume each time you make a change, but when you’re working on new sounds it’s not always a bad thing.

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Super, thank you.

ask your doctor, most likely he will tell you what mine have told me, stay as far away from headphones as you can

My doctor told me that even lower volumes will make no diffirence because the soundwaves are trapped by the headphones will damage the ear eventually on the very long run.

He told me that if I have to use headphone to use ones that allow the sound to get away from the ear and stay as far away I can from earplug headphones

The only way to be possible is to add a limiter that will snap the volume and not allow it to go above a specific value, no idea if Cabbage has one but it should be possible to route via the patcher.